Best/Worst Spiderman Villains for Spiderman 4

January 22, 2008 at 11:57 am (Comics, Top Ten)

   

As you may know, there are a couple of new Spiderman movies coming out, all of which I am excited about. The closest one coming, Spiderman 4, has several villains that could be used, and here are the top ten possibilities. The Best will be the first 5, then the other 5 will be the worst. I would also like to mention that The Sinister 6 would be a good idea.

Best- 

  1. The Lizard-Dr. Connors, it has been set up, and could totally work.-Best
  2. The Chameleon-A master of disguise with no Dana Carvey in sight, with the right acting performance, could be a compelling villain. 
  3. Scorpion-If they do the costume right, he could be pretty cool.
  4. Hydro Man-With 2010’s special effects posibilities, it would be awesome!
  5. Kingpin-Although he was played (badly) in Daredevil, a better version possibly by Ted Levine would be nice.

Worst-

  1. Boomerang-He doens’t even have superpowers!!! 
  2. The Rhino-I honestly can’t think of a way they could make him not look lame.
  3. Mysterio-With a fishbowl as a head, it would be a hard villain to pull off.
  4. The Vulture-An old man that can fly, wouldn’t really translate well.
  5. Carnage-Not that he isn’t a cool villain, but a lot of people would get him confused with Venom.
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89 Comments

  1. The James said,

    Vulture was at one point in the script for Spider Man 3.

    The lizard definitely would be the best.

  2. dragonshensi said,

    I agree with you all except for Carnage. He’s cool but surely people that has seen the other movies could tell the difference. Red and orange.Purple and white.

  3. earlman27 said,

    Think about it, The Lizard seems like the best choice because they’ve already built him up to be the baddy.

  4. earlman27 said,

    I know, but they’re going to have to explain the story, and to some it would be confusing. Sure you can tell the difference, but it would be harder to explain that only the fanboys will enjoy.

  5. nolanator said,

    I think it would be cool to see Hydro Man

  6. Michael Joyce said,

    Ever since I first saw Spider-Man 2, I was despret for Spider-Man 3. It was a long wait and when I saw 3, it was brilliant. Now the wait for Spider-Man 4 begins. I don’t know, hopefully Spider-Man 4 will be filmed very soon, I do not have a clue when. These people are picking so many ideas besides Carnage & Lizard, but not sure which ones they want yet. I’m getting pissed off that they won’t start filming yet. Tobey Maguire, Sam Raimi and the rest better come back. I enjoyed the three epic adventures of the web swinger, now i’m ready for the fourth epic adventure. I watch teasers that Peter Parker is gonna have revenge for his best friends death at the end of Spider-Man 3. Tobey I beg of you, come back and do Spider-Man 4, I preyed to god that Spider-Man 4 will soon come, I hope it does and you better too Maguire.

  7. earl said,

    I would like to see some more focus on Aunt May. She’s so sweet of an old lady, you just wanna give her a hug. A revenge plotline sounds nice, but it was kinda played out in 3 with Sandman. I am anxious to see the incarnation of Carnage in 4.

  8. The James said,

    Revenge?! Revenge?! He already killed Venom and made his peace with Sandman. Who is he gonna get revenge against? Bernard? (For not telling Harry sooner?)

  9. earl said,

    For Harry’s death, maybe it means there will be another dance scene.

  10. The James said,

    I mean for Harrys death. Who was involved in Harry’s death that he can take revenge on?

  11. earl said,

    Did Harry have a pet?

  12. todd said,

    what about john jameson, he would be awesome for spiderman 4 as man wolf to take revenge on peter parker because mj left him at the alter? conners would be awesome as the lizzard. maybe along with chameleon or shocker

  13. todd said,

    well, there is nobody for spiderman to take revenge on for harry’s death because venom killed him alone while trying to kill spiderman, so there could be no revenge plot for his death, unless another goblin comes in part 4, claiming to be a friend of harry’s that peter parker doesn’t know about, and they could team up.what i really want to see more than any other villain, is manwolf, hydroman, and lizzard

  14. jag said,

    i’m pretty sure that venom or carnage won’t be in spiderman 4.listen to this though. because mj left john jameson at the alter in s2,john will turn into manwolf in part 4 . i think he will try to kill peter parker in part 4.another story could happen with dr. connors turning him into the lizzard. i would love to see spiderman and sandman teaming up against hydroman. maybe the symbiote that connors still has was accidentally freed while connors turns into the lizzard and the birth of carnage is revealed at the end of the movie

  15. Reed said,

    hey i did a fan “summery” of what i think should happen in spider-man for. I’m currently writting a script on it so please take a look and tell me what you think. the good so i know what to keep and the bad so i know what to change. please coment. oh by the way the villians i would like to see in spider-man 4 are carnage, venom, and the scorpion, along with ultimate venom when he absorbs the carnage symboit.

  16. Reed said,

    sorry script is on top blog post “Spider-Man 4 villians revealed.”

  17. dave said,

    heres my idea for the last spiderman film.
    jake gyllenhaal to play peter parker/spiderman and natalie port man to play mary jane watson.
    i think for the last spiderman film venom and carnage should be the villains because it will be the biggest battle ever. making the first appearance of carnage and the return of venom having the symbiote from dr connors escape in a preivous film and have it build up for him to return in other films. and john jameson should be the new venom because hes pissed off at peter for stealing mary jane and have that build up in past movies too until he becomes venom and finds out peter is spiderman. for carnage the venom symbiote splits into 2 and 1 gets a chemical spilled onto it with new cells and traits and it turns red (carnage). cletus cassidy as carnage, while he tries to rob a bank and holds people hostage and the red symbiote followed cletus in the bank and attached itself to him while spiderman tries to deal with cletus. and when spiderman took care of cletus, cletus goes to jail and turns into carnage in his cell while sitting and laughing and then escapes. carnage goes out into the city and test what he could do while doing that he destroys everything and spiderman comes in and thinks its venom but realizes its not but similar they enter into a battle and looks even but then carnage starts whooping him and escapes leaving questions for peter.
    WANT MORE? PLEASE REPLY

  18. earlman27 said,

    Great idea, Dave, I’d love to hear more. How’d you learn about this site? Thanks for the great input.

  19. dave said,

    thanks, you know any film directors?
    now for the rebirth of venom, after the battle with carnage the black symbiote follows spiderman when he swings away, spiderman stops in an alley where the symbiote follows and then walks by john jameson. out of the corner of his eye he sees something and follows to see and takes a peek and sees spiderman taking off his mask and finds out that peter is spiderman, surprised by it he bumps into a trash can and knocks over the lid and hides. with the black symbiote coming close to attaching itself to peter but with the noise peter flees as the symbiote almost attaches. john looks again and sees nothing he goes to where he saw pete and then the symbiote jumps onto johns jacket, he looks around and gets angry. john is at his house and thinking of how to get back at peter but then the symbiote attaches to john and he tries to get it off but its all over his entire body and then he crashes out of the window with the suit almost completely engulfing him. crashes into the the ground of an alley making a small crater and rises the new venom. and venom then tests what he could do by attacking the city and tries to bring out spiderman. pete hears whats going on with his police radio and thinks its carnage again then sees its venom and wonders how, thinks its eddie but then venom says no parker and they start to fight with spiderman being beat up a bit and having to flee again not knowing how to deal with venom and carnage.
    PLEASE REPLY!

  20. The James said,

    Earl? Knowing a film director?! Ha!

    That was funny…

  21. dave said,

    what do you guys think of comment 17 and 19 so far?

  22. earlman27 said,

    Great Ideas. You obviously put a lot of time into it, it’s great to see that kinda dedication. Great work.

  23. dave said,

    I got more ideas for the final spidey flick. first forget about my last comment i made about the venom part, some of it is going to stay the same. here it is:
    the rebirth of venom, after the battle with carnage the black symbiote follows spiderman when he swings away, spiderman stops in an alley where the symbiote follows and then walks by john jameson. out of the corner of his eye he sees something and follows to see and takes a peek and sees spiderman taking off his mask and finds out that peter is spiderman, surprised by it he bumps into a trash can and knocks over the lid and hides. with the black symbiote coming close to attaching itself to peter but with the noise peter flees as the symbiote almost attaches. john looks again and sees nothing he goes to where he saw pete and then the symbiote jumps onto johns jacket, he looks around and gets angry. john is at his house and thinking of how to get back at peter but then the symbiote attaches to john and he tries to get it off but its all over his entire body and then he crashes out of the window with the suit almost completely engulfing him. crashes into the the ground of an alley making a small crater and rises the new venom, smiles and the screen goes blank. the next day aunt may is in the hospital because she is very sick but that is revealed earlier and peter is swinging around the city and all of a sudden he’s attacked by venom and is tied by web and stuck on a wall of a building. Venom says why do you have a mask on i know who you are, peter says i thought you were dead eddie, venom: i’m not brock i am poison to spiderman i am venom. And then says you stole my love away from me and now i’m gonna take yours and swings away peter realizing that it’s john jameson thats venom and that hes goning for aunt may, breaks out of the web and tries to catch up to venom. venom reaches the hospital and just as he gets to aunt mays window spiderman knocks him down and they fight swinging around and fighting on the building walls as venom keeps trying to gey to aunt may but at the last second pete shoots his web and pulls venom away into the air and venom shoots back and swings him though a building and into a parade with venom nowhere to be found but still sensing him, he sees john in his human form and sees him taking gwen aside and disappears and spiderman follows and then sees gwen tied up in web hanging from one of the balloons and mary jane is there and sees her and sees peter and venom, she gathers a couple of people to try and save gwen from falling. as spiderman tries to save gwen venom keeps pulling him away with his web and attacking on top of another balloon, spiderman then forces venom to pop the balloon and then venom falls off. spiderman grabs gwen and then drops her as venom comes back and tackles him it looks like gwen is about to fall to her death but then she is caught by mary jane and other people holding a huge blanket and pete sees and throws venom through a building adn goes in after but venom is gone. peter goes outside and looks at maty jane and she looks back and nods to her.
    THATS IT FOR NOW, I JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUY HOW TO PUT CARNAGE INTO IT ALL AGAIN.

  24. earlman27 said,

    My goodness Dave, either you’re a really big spiderman fan or you have too much (clap clap) time on your hands. I’m gonna make a post dedicated to your….dedication.

  25. dave said,

    i’m just a big spiderman fan, he’s my favorite superhero.
    oh yeah thanks.

  26. dave said,

    last comment so far

  27. dave said,

    how come nobody post any comments here any more

  28. Ed said,

    I think Rhino would be okay but yeah making him look good would be very difficult. They could use the abducting John Jameson storyline. Of course he would go through his human stage and transformation. With this storyline the Kingpin would be in the film as well bubt more as a minor villain. Rhino would be taken care of fairly early.

    You can then tie in The Lizard storyplot in it aswell as the main villain.

  29. Ed said,

    I don’t want Carnage but if it was the perfect cast would be the guy that plays T-Bag in Prison Break Robert Knepper

  30. Steven said,

    I’d like to point out that Daredevil movie’s Kingpin was actually critically praised by critics for an accurate portrayal of the character

  31. earlman27 said,

    Yea, Micheal Clarke Duncan is good, but the movie itself wasn’t too good.

  32. Steven said,

    Also Rhino could look good. He looked cool in Ultimate Spider-Man the game

  33. Davis said,

    The Lizard definatly needs to be in it but the other one should either be Rhino, carnage, or if this one is played right the prowler.

  34. B-random said,

    Dave i like your ideas but i think they srewed up venom in the 3rd installment. i dont want to see a new venom, yea it sucks he was only in the movie for like 20 min. but still they need to leave it alone. james vanderbilt is writing a 2 movie story arc and i think he is going to leave the simbiote out of it. sorces say he is going to use Kraven the hunter and the lizard.

  35. B-random said,

    Dave, i still want to hear more ideas.

  36. nolanator said,

    I agree. No more Venom.

  37. B-random said,

    THIS is how i hope James Vanderbilt’s two movie script would play out. I say they have built up Dr. conners enough to go ahead and bring on the Lizard…..Kraven comes to new york to hunt down the lizard and spiderman. Spiderman fights them both of course, but Kraven takes down the Lizard and then goes after spiderman when spiderman tries to take Dr. conners back to the lab. Kraven and spiderman get in one last fight and end up breaking things in the lab which releases the piece of symbiote Conners still has. END of 4…………..after the credits roll, they should show a clip of the symbiote heading towards a prison……….leading into 5
    THE fith movie should start out with spiderman finishing the fight with Kraven, but Kraven escapes the fight for bigger game…….. CARNAGE. Carnage of course kills Kraven and alot of other ppl. then spiderman comes to the rescue and defeats Carnage agenst all odds in like a 30 min fight scene full of CGI . THE END/

  38. max said,

    all of you have forgotten about electro and shocker

  39. max said,

    and hob goblin

  40. B-random said,

    the shocer would be cool to see, but i think they have done enough Goblins

  41. dave said,

    OKAT THIS IS FOR U B-random

    for the final battle it will start in the streets of the city with people running around in the afternoon and it gradually gets dark, it’s a 3 way battle between spiderman, venom, and carnage and they start fighting shooting webs, swinging around, and climbing buildings. spiderman gets thrown through a building by venom and carnage and windows are breaking, venom shoots his web at carnage and punches him into the air carnage recovers and turns his arm into a axe and just as he is about to slice venom spiderman swings in and kicks him and comes back and flys toward venom and tackles him down and flings him in the air and in comes carnage flying towards venom and tackles him into a building and now it becomes a wall crawling and web slinging fight, pete realizes he needs to take the fight somewhere else because there’s too many people in danger and then attacks both venom and carnage to lure their attention to him and they swing off

    THATS ALL I GOT

  42. B-random said,

    DAVE, that sounds pretty awesome…. i wish they would have just left eddie brock alive so we could see the three of them go at it. and plus i really dont see spiderman taking down carnage without venoms help………..if only the writers would listen to the fanboys!

  43. B-random said,

    OK this is how i would do all six spiderman movies!

  44. B-random said,

    I REALLY FEEL that they did a great job on spiderman 1 & 2….so i would leave those alone……HOWEVER i would change one minor thing a/b the third movie and that would be that eddie brock gets seperated from the symbiote and stays that way, so brock lives and gets taken to prison.I say they have built up Dr. conners enough to go ahead and bring on the Lizard…..Kraven comes to new york to hunt down the lizard and spiderman. Spiderman fights them both of course, but Kraven takes down the Lizard and then goes after spiderman when spiderman tries to take Dr. conners back to the lab. Kraven and spiderman get in one last fight and ends up breaking things in the lab which releases the piece of symbiote Conners still has. END of 4…………..after the credits roll, they should show a clip of the symbiote heading towards a prison……….leading into 5
    THE fith movie should start out with spiderman finishing the fight with Kraven, but Kraven escapes the fight for bigger game…….. CARNAGE! BROCK gets back with the symbiote but is off doing his on thing and letting CARNAGE do whatever it is that CARNAGE does best. CARNAGE kills KRAVEN(of course). SPIDERMAN does what he can to stop CARNAGE…but he fails the first time around b/c CARNAGE is way to powerful for spiderman alone( now this where i would stray a little from the comics)
    VENOM was going to let SPIDERMAN die at the hand of CARNAGE… until he sees that spiderman is trying to save GWEN STACY….VENOM comes into play and at this point i need a 30 min fight scene full of CGI that ends with VENOM and SPIDERMAN beating down carnage and killing him………..VENOM looks at SPIDERMAN (really worn out from the fight) and says we have unfinished buisness and swings off…………after the credits it shows SPIDERMAN checking out MECHA-BIO_CON( Spell check and name check…..its where MAC gets turned into SCORPION) END OF MOVIE 5 and leading into 6….which i will finish later b/c its time for my lunch break…….

  45. B-random said,

    I REALLY FEEL that they did a great job on spiderman 1 & 2….so i would leave those alone……HOWEVER i would change one minor thing a/b the third movie and that would be that eddie brock gets seperated from the symbiote and stays that way, so brock lives and gets taken to prison.I say they have built up Dr. conners enough to go ahead and bring on the Lizard…..Kraven comes to new york to hunt down the lizard and spiderman. Spiderman fights them both of course, but Kraven takes down the Lizard and then goes after spiderman when spiderman tries to take Dr. conners back to the lab. Kraven and spiderman get in one last fight and ends up breaking things in the lab which releases the piece of symbiote Conners still has. END of 4…………..after the credits roll, they should show a clip of the symbiote heading towards a prison……….leading into 5

  46. B-random said,

    THE fith movie should start out with spiderman finishing the fight with Kraven, but Kraven escapes the fight for bigger game…….. CARNAGE! BROCK gets back with the symbiote but is off doing his on thing and letting CARNAGE do whatever it is that CARNAGE does best. CARNAGE kills KRAVEN(of course). SPIDERMAN does what he can to stop CARNAGE…but he fails the first time around b/c CARNAGE is way to powerful for spiderman alone( now this where i would stray a little from the comics)

  47. B-random said,

    OK SPIDERMAN 6 is simple let the whole SCORPION thing play out, but show alot of scences with VENOM bulking up for SPIDERMAN and when SPIDERMAN takes down SCORPION, VENOM shows up for the FINAL SHOWDOWN……… of course SPIDERMAN wins and everything is back to normal and PETER PARKER can finish out his life in piece……THE END

  48. The James said,

    wow that is a lot of painfully long comments

  49. dave said,

    I don’t know about a few of those ideas

  50. B-random said,

    yea i know, i didnt put alot of thougth into those i just kinda rambled on on,…….ha i guess thats why they dont listen to the fanboys

  51. B-random said,

    ok trash most of it , but i want to keep venom alive so we can see the fight between him spidey and carnage.

  52. dave said,

    come on B-random let’s hear some more ideas!

  53. B-random said,

    OK, well i think they might leave to simbiote alone for a few movies…….so i think it would be good if they used a storyline that had SCORPION and RHINO in it…….the RHINO could be like super badass so SPIDERMAN would have to first go after MAC GARGAN aka SCORPION. MECA-BIO-CON has mind control over SCORPION, so when SPIDERMAN defeats him, the mind control would be gone and then in return he would help SPIDERMAN defeat the RHINO.

  54. dave said,

    hey B random I’m currently coming up with a remake story of Spiderman 3 and doing a story of Spiderman 4. In 3 I’m gonna get rid of Sandman, and not put Venom in it but going to keep the black suit and put Eddie Brock in as the childhood friend and have Venom in 4. There will be no dancing or corny emo stuff and no trouble with MJ, keeping Gwen, more Black suit action, having Harry being more focused on as the villain and I might or might not add the Vulture because it might be adding too much already, I don’t know I’m working on it.
    Mean while here’s a link to my spiderman thread on spill.com you should check it out:
    http://my.spill.com/forum/topic/show?id=947994%3ATopic%3A421369

  55. The James said,

    a good friend (babcom5) once told me that everyime someone writes a fan fic, an lolcat dies

  56. earlman27 said,

    I know I’m dying. Why do you guys write this stuff? I feel like an old man running a convenience store and you guys just hang out all day talking about Spiderman. If I wrote a Batman post, would you do this there?

  57. B-random said,

    yea dave…..looking forward to reading all that…….and yea earlman……give me the link and ill go talk all day a/b batman.

  58. B-random said,

    Hey dave…. i like the vulture idea…..if you are focusing more on Harry i think it would be a good fight between goblin jr and the vulture. and yea i like the idea of a film that shows eddie brock devolpe before we see venom.

  59. nolanator said,

    They have so many more villains that they could make about 5 more movies.

  60. B-random said,

    YEA, i think so too……..and i would also like to see villains team up. I think it would be cool if they had like:

    mysterio and vulture
    Kraven and lizard
    scorpion and rhino
    shocker and black cat

  61. The James said,

    they need their own blog…

  62. earlman27 said,

    I have so considered that.

  63. The James said,

    do you wananna make them one or something?

  64. earlman27 said,

    I might.

  65. B-random said,

    to tell you guys the truth i just find these websites, i dont really know how to start my own.

  66. B-random said,

    EARLMAN27 just noticed the STYX reference in comment 24. nice

  67. earlman27 said,

    It’s what I do.

  68. The James said,

    was you re-reading all of these?

    Earl can help you. This site is run by wordpress, its easy!

  69. nolanator said,

    Earl is so smart.

  70. earlman27 said,

    I know, it’s my gift

  71. B-random said,

    so i guess i just go to wordpress.com and start my own discussion?

  72. dave16 said,

    b-random your going to start your own blog

  73. earlman27 said,

    Dont feel like I’m kicking you off, I’m just saying you guys seem like the perfect kind to start your own sites for these ideas.

  74. nolanator said,

    B-random, in the words of Starsky and Hutch, DO IT!

  75. dave16 said,

    I’m gonna start my own

  76. dave16 said,

    I started my own blog and it’s spiderman of course so check it out
    http://dave16.wordpress.com/?p=10&preview=true

  77. The James said,

    nice

  78. nolanator said,

    Cool site.

  79. dave16 said,

    hey B random where are you? go read my Spiderman 3 remake

  80. Phil said,

    I think carnage or hydroman
    THEY KILLED VENOM OFF TO QUICK
    i think they should do scorpion to WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  81. 37 radius said,

    B-random those are the worst ideas i`ve heard in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  82. 37 radius said,

    I swear, if they except his ideas I`ll be finished with Spiderman forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  83. dragonshensi said,

    least your being nice about it.

  84. Nicholas Otero said,

    Put lizard and carnage in it and get rid of Rami and Dunst.If you have Rami hell just mess up carnage like he did venom,and Dunst is to emotional and crappy,but keep everyone else.And instead of having a reveng story with Harrys death,have carnage kill off mary jane like they did with JOKER killing rachel in dark knight .AND DROP THE UNCLE BEN THING ALREADY!!!Lizard needs to need to be driven mad by like his wife cheating on him and the government shuting him down and puting him in a ayslum.

  85. Lije said,

    end spider man 6 and the series. the wirters kan fill in the gap

  86. Billy Madison said,

    it should be Carnage & Lizard & and possiably one more villian, then bringing venom back at some point in the series for Carnage, Spidey, and Venom to go at it for the final battle

  87. earlman27 said,

    Why is everyone so obsessed with Venom? Yea, I think they could have done better than what they did in #3, but let’s give some other guys a chance. Lizard of course, but let’s see someone else. Maybe Carnage, if we can get Zachary Quinto to do it. Then lead back into Venom (MAYBE) for a sequel on down the road.

  88. kieran said,

    in spider man 4 i think carage come and kills spider man but spider man comes back to life some how

  89. earlman27 said,

    Ehhh….

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